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    Donald Trump Lawyer's Mike Pence Argument 'Remarkable'—Attorney

    https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trum...ection-1947866

    Donald Trump's legal team recently offered a "remarkable" suggestion as to why the federal 2020 election interference case should be dismissed, a legal expert has said.

    On her Civil Discourse blog, Joyce Vance, a former federal prosecutor, reacted to the joint status report submitted on August 30 by special counsel Jack Smith and Trump's lawyers. It detailed their clashing proposals for how the case should continue.

    Judge Tanya Chutkan, who is overseeing the proceedings, requested a proposed plan in the wake of the landmark Supreme Court decision that granted Trump some presidential immunity for officials acts performed while in office.

    Vance said that in their attempts to have the case thrown out entirely, Trump's lawyers would focus on presidential immunity, including in the "context of the Special Counsel's allegations about the pressure campaign on Mike Pence."

    On January 6, 2021, Trump allegedly pressured his vice president to not certify the 2020 election results while Pence performed his purely ceremonial role as presiding officer of the Senate.

    "In the view of Trump's lawyers, their client is immune from any prosecution regarding the pressure Trump put on Pence to refuse to certify Joe Biden's election," Vance wrote.

    She continued: "In a rather remarkable section of the report, Trump's lawyers don't argue that their client didn't pressure Pence to help Trump steal the election. Instead, Trump's lawyers just say he's immune from prosecution for doing it. That could even end up, at least to some extent, once the Supreme Court gets its hands on it, being a winning argument in a court of law.

    "But in the court of public opinion, and particularly for voters, the argument that, 'sure, I pressured Mike Pence to refuse to certify the election for Joe Biden after we lost so we could take over the government anyway' isn't exactly a compelling one. And yet, that's the essence of the position Trump's lawyers take." .....

    Ought to be an interesting take on I did it yet I'm immune from prosecution.
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    I was one of those people who watched TV on election night like it was a sporting event. Haven't done that the last few ones. But wouldn't miss it this year. This election has much more importance than any other - possibly causing significant change to our voting system as well as our country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UTAH View Post
    I was one of those people who watched TV on election night like it was a sporting event. Haven't done that the last few ones. But wouldn't miss it this year. This election has much more importance than any other - possibly causing significant change to our voting system as well as our country.

    Hunter
    I stopped that after the 2000 election. I was in Germany, six hours ahead of the east coast, so even the early returns didn't start until 2 AM. Then it was a cliff hanger---I never went to sleep---the next day was "difficult"----made worse by still no results. Gore scared me and I thought GWB would surround himself with smart people who would keep him out of trouble. That didn't work out as I hoped---the "smart" ones had their own agenda

    He should have listened to his Mom
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