Or maybe the not so great debate. I thought vice president Harris did a good job. I thought Trump looked tired and bit on her attempts to inflame him. Overall, I don't think much was to be gained by these debates it was fairly predictable. I did sence some degree of bias by The ABC folks who did conduct the debate. I base out on the fact that they were fact checking Trump in real time, but did not appear to do the same on Kamala. They both lied their ass off several times. All in all I don't think there was much to gain by it. They are what they are and people are going to vote the way they're going to vote. Purely on debate performance and not content I would have to give the win to Kamala.