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....and now this!
Garrison Keillor, the creator and host of “A Prairie Home Companion” on Minnesota Public Radio, was fired Wednesday over “allegations of his inappropriate behavior with an individual who worked with him,” according to a statement from the radio network.
This is getting to be a little bit of "last man standing"
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
"Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
“You can’t go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending.” ---C. S. Lewis
to paraphrase a line in Yamamoto's diary . ( From the actions and words of those in power in regards to 51% of the population): I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill her with a terrible resolve.
women are mad as hell and are not going to take it anymore
"The only thing that we learn from torture is the depths of our own moral depravity"
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It has become a witch hunt. Many more will succumb to the flames.....
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Asking my Squaw if I've ever harassed her, she started out remember bla bla when we were going together. If she was serious that would be how many men would be in trouble because I don't have the foggiest idea what was done and said that long ago.
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That's why I think a lot of us are guilty of some sort of harassment. Problem is some recognized it and did try to correct their attitudes and actions and other just continued on their way doing the same old thing.Originally Posted by Billy_Rightwing
Now that it's being talked about it shows the extent of the problem.
As to the political field idiots that's a toss up. Throw them out or give them a pass. What the worse part?
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The sad truth is that once the 1 800 attorneys get involved this whole deal will go to hell in a handbasket. There will be no credibility on any side of it. It will all be about settlements and money. That is very sad indeed.
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Ye-Haw!!! another 3 billion people to tell me how evil and horrible I am!!!I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill her with a terrible resolve.
women are mad as hell and are not going to take it anymore
This is your mind on drugs!
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I always thought he was gay, come to think of it he could have beenWatch how Matt Lauer covered sexual harassment
This is your mind on drugs!
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Now that I have read the account of this event, if it was as described, it would warrant a coaching and an apology (and concurrence on the part of the woman) in my book but not likely a dismissal. I think we might be tottering on the verge of excess reaction at this point.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
"Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
“You can’t go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending.” ---C. S. Lewis
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You must have read only the first public allegations toward Mr. Luar. Try these chronicled later by Variety, and I think you can see why immediate dismissal was executed.
http://variety.com/2017/biz/news/mat...en-1202625959/
Then too, the original story was that he credibly was charged with "assaulting" an intern. "Assaulting" is a somewhat broad term used all the way from grabbing an arm or even threatening to do so up to actual rape. Maybe it's the lawyer in me, but they need to be more specific when using loaded terms like that.
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I was not talking about Luar, I was commenting about Garrison Keillor.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
"Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
“You can’t go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending.” ---C. S. Lewis
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From what I read, he did apologize and it was accepted. I don't agree with this one. She is simply riding the gravy train. Losing your job for accidentally touching a woman's back while giving her a hug she was participating in is a bit over the top in my book.
I like his attitude, he's taking it well. Almost like he does not care that he was fired. I'll be curious to see how much money she gets for having such a horrible crime as having her back touched during a hug.
#hetouchedmyback
Now I'm scared. I touch every woman's back that I hug.
Last edited by Phillbo; 11-30-2017 at 11:01 AM.
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That is in agreement with the details I read as well---there was an immediate apology and apparent acceptance and now long afterward it comes up again
My comments are more directed at the time of the event, not long afterward.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
"Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
“You can’t go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending.” ---C. S. Lewis
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this is what seems to be confusing to some but not at all to me. A woman knows the difference between accidental touching and sexual touching. Obviously if Mr Keillor realized at the time there was reason to apologize, he clearly did something to apologize for. If a woman suddenly finds herself in the very uncomfortable and shocking position of pretending her boss's hand isn't lingering on her in what is clearly an awkward testing of the waters.. Women caught off guard by this behavior and where it happens and from who it comes from.. are not prepared to rebuke, this is not a sweaty nightclub. So she assures him it's ok.. but it's not, she is alone and instinct tells her to smooth things over and get away. The shame and humiliation felt by a woman who suddenly realized she does not have the respect of this man... hurts and it festers, even as she tries to put it behind her and forget it.. The idea that someone you likely considered a mentor, sought approval and advice from, thought he respected your mind, was looking at you as a an option to f*ck is where the damage is. long term damage
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I think there is an element of Mars and Venus comes in to play here. I clearly remember examples in our training that surprised me and others had a similar reaction.
It became obvious to me that the line that could not be crossed was closer than I imagined.
Training or not in this case it was apparently immediately obvious that the line had been crossed and an apology offered.
I continue to think this was not grounds for dismissal, but there might be much not in the public domain.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
"Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
“You can’t go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending.” ---C. S. Lewis
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