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  1. 07-04-2020, 12:33 PM #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by wacojoe View Post
    Enjoying your acrimony and maybe victimhood are you? Sign of the times, I guess.
    Tell me---how is this bravado thingie working out for you guys----never mind---I already know.

    Here is a little news from the home state of those Darwin award candidates:

    MONTGOMERY, ALABAMA - Alabama reported more than 1,700 new confirmed coronavirus cases — the highest number yet for a single day in the state — as doctors and state officials expressed concern about further spread during the Fourth of July holiday weekend.

    The state on Thursday surpassed the previous high-water mark for the most infections reported in a 24-hour period while the number of people hospitalized with COVID-19 also reached a new high of 843. The state this week also recorded the lowest availability in ICU beds since the pandemic began.

    Dr. Michael Saag, an infectious-diseases physician at the University of Alabama at Birmingham who also had COVID-19, likened the spread in the state to a "wildfire."

    "The data are pretty dismal right now, not just in our state but around the country," Saag said in a Friday interview with reporters.

    In May, Alabama was averaging 300 cases a day, but now is at over 1,000. "The data are telling us we are headed toward a tough situation," Saag said.
    Yes sir---I'd argue "headed for a tough situation" is a bit of an understatement.
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    It was always going to happen once the Chi-Com’s sent it...the timing of the outbreaks is the only issue. Note that your favorite Lefty governor (take your pick) had no downward impact on the spread other than to kill a few tens of thousands of nursing home patients by forcing known carriers inside their facilities. If you are listening, you will hear the “experts” tell you that the masking and distancing were never meant to do anything but spread the time of mass infection to keep the hospitals from too big a surge. You will also hear them tell you that the current ramping up is traced to young people (mostly liberal twits who, when asked, have no idea what, when or why the 4th of July came to be celebrated) gathering in bars and parties because they are rejecting staying at home.
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    Without question, you listen to a different set of "experts" than I do---case in point, the claims for trump's "cure".

    As for the governors---I wouldn't be throwing stones at anyone else's governor with what is going on in Texas
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    Our numbers do not even compare with New York’s.

    A question: what would you have done differently with regard to the pandemic, and what would you expect Joe Biden to do?
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    Just for the record: new cases yesterday in Texas were 8258 and 726 in NY. With those numbers I'd not be in a rush to cast stones at anyone else.

    I have no interest in discussing Biden and hypothetical questions. I will discuss the current "occupant" and you can take it from there if you wish. No reasonable manager would publicly castigate, ignore and insult their own staff. This could--and well might, become a real world example for students of what not to do as a manager. The man is an unmitigated disaster.

    I can't help comment on your LT Gov.---he should be in trump's administration---that man is a certifiable idiot.

    ...and for a little tidbit:

    The United States has the most infections and virus-related deaths in the world, with 2.8 million cases and nearly 130,000 dead.
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    Look at the total numbers between the two states and you might have a different opinion, Dave.

    I can’t help noticing you had no response to what YOU would have done differently. If your criticism does not contain specifics about what should have been done, which was not or what was done that should not, then the criticism is empty and mere railing against the wind. The pandemic is a rolling calamity, and it was inevitable that infection rates would move across the country, as it has across the world...and still is, if you have not been reading about it.

    I think Trump should have personally gone to Atlanta to the CDC, grabbed a white coat and made us some effective tests, but then that’s just me.
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    My answer was clear---you just don't want to hear it.

    As for some previous difference between Texas--and I assume you are talking about NY---how do you want to compare those numbers---surely you must acknowledge that living in NYC is distinctly different than living most anywhere else--so for a start---look at people/sq mile.

    As for what I would have done---I understand how to manage---damn shame trump hasn't a clue.
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    So that’s the best ya got, “He’s not a good manager.” Instead, you would go the other choice who has never managed anything but a cancer charity to further his promise as VP to “cure cancer,” and which turned out to be a scam. I’m waiting for you to tell us Trump should have forced us into our houses through some magical unconstitutional overreach until a cure is found.

    When are you going to confess that you are spring-loaded to oppose anything Trump does just because it is Trump?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wacojoe View Post
    So that’s the best ya got, “He’s not a good manager.” Instead, you would go the other choice who has never managed anything but a cancer charity to further his promise as VP to “cure cancer,” and which turned out to be a scam. I’m waiting for you to tell us Trump should have forced us into our houses through some magical unconstitutional overreach until a cure is found.

    When are you going to confess that you are spring-loaded to oppose anything Trump does just because it is Trump?
    I have been clear---you are having a reading comprehension problem today. Just for the record, I am not going to spend time defending Biden---trump takes too much of my time already. Again---just for you Joe---trump sucks as a manager and he happens to be in the biggest managerial role in the world, while totally under gunned. His treatment of his own professional staff has been deplorable.

    As for lock down---maybe you guys should have tried more of that---tell me again how well your Texas boys are doing.
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    O.K., we have established that you have nothing to offer for Trump to do with regard to WuFlu other than your general complaints, so now we can move on...
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    We should overlay Texa$ on the northeast, and compare cases. Regardless of everything else, the policies of the coastal elites are what brought us this.
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    Consider this my last post in this thread. To blame this on the North East is interesting---the North East has drastically reduced the rate of new cases. One might think these new hot spots might have learned from observing what worked in the north east---obviously they have not.

    It is a damn shame that this subject of personal tragedy has been reduced to a political football with a divider at QB when we need a uniter.

    You might give some thought to these facts while you are feeling smug:
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    The critical issue is not how many carry the virus, but the percentage that are impinged by it and the severity, which the graph does not address. The graph only represents tested COVID-19 totals, and the US has tested more than any country from what I read other than China, which is notably not on the graph and has no reliable stats on anything. In other words, the graph has no meaning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wacojoe View Post
    The critical issue is not how many carry the virus, but the percentage that are impinged by it and the severity, which the graph does not address. The graph only represents tested COVID-19 totals, and the US has tested more than any country from what I read other than China, which is notably not on the graph and has no reliable stats on anything. In other words, the graph has no meaning.
    Keep believing that Joe
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    Just a few facts to ponder as you continue to deny the reality of this sickness---and this comes directly from your state web site.

    On 6/30/20 there were 6533 cases of covid-19 in your hospitals. Yesterday that number had ballooned to 8698. Might I suggest----people are not admitted to hospital because they had a positive test---they are admitted to hospital because they are sick---and the longer this goes on increasing the sicker they will have to be to be admitted---you are running out of beds.
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