In a strange twist, Mexico has closed the border and gringos are not allowed:
https://tucson.com/news/local/as-cov...b4112dbe9.html
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In a strange twist, Mexico has closed the border and gringos are not allowed:
https://tucson.com/news/local/as-cov...b4112dbe9.html
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Before long no one will have us. I never thought I would see the EU ban us either.
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It shall pass.....
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I've never liked or respected anything EU. May it die a quick death once Brexit is finalized.Originally Posted by Dave Grubb
The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible - Arthur C. Clarke
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More than happy to oblige them
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I'll assume you have never traveled further south than the border towns.....
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I did years ago before the deadly cartels began to run the country.
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I respect that---but this has huge economic implications for them as well as us--beyond any political aspects. I don't have the dollar figures at my finger tips but just the tourist trade dollars are eminence. This decision did not come lightly.
For someone like me, who trades in the EU this becomes very complicated. I have a new finishing line that just left Italy and will arrive in NYC July 12. At this point I have no technicians available to install that line. I am facing the same issues with another major ($1.2 million) order coming from Germany and due to ship in early September.
I have worked in and with the EU---before the EU existed. I could not begin to count the number of trips I have made and the time I have spent there. To now be barred (and for a reason I understand) is simply not anything I would have ever expected to see
But, then again this pandemic is not something I imagined would happen.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
"Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
“You can’t go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending.” ---C. S. Lewis
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Canada basically cancelled hunting season for Americans. The lunatic fringe of 1%r's is banging their silver spoons on their high chairs.
"Back after 5 years. I thought you had died.
don"
Splitting my time between the montane and the mesas
The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep.
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The US Canadian border has been closed since March:
Take a look at the curve for covid infections in Canada and compare that to the US.The U.S.-Canada border has been closed to non-essential cross-border traffic since March 21, with repeated 30-day extensions. Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced two weeks ago that the border would again remain closed through at least July 21 as parts of the United States see another surge in Covid-19 cases.
But---their flattened curve is most likely due to the fact that most cases have gone undiagnosed because they are waiting to get a doctors appointment(I thought I'd honor Joe and beat him to that comment.)
I will add, that while everyone seems on the ready to point the finger of blame on these entities that have banned US citizens from entry, you just might want to ask yourself if they are justified in doing that due to the mismanagement of this pandemic in the US. The proof is in the figures, and ignore them if you like---but we, as a country, have failed to control this.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
"Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
“You can’t go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending.” ---C. S. Lewis
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There are many parts of Spain, Italy, Austria that I plan to visit in a few years.... I hope they are still around then.
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We we prohibited many European countries from coming to the United States in the early stages of the virus why should we fault them
or make it a political thing that they don't want Americans coming into their country since we have a large number of people with the Coronavirus. I don't even know why the coronavirus is a political issue it's a health issue
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Joe, if your premise is correct how do you explain Italy, Canada and other countries who have had far more success than us?
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Joe just tell him it's all Trump's fault.
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If you will tell me what you mean and by what measure you define “success,” we can go from there.
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