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  1. 08-18-2020, 02:18 PM #1
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    An inconvenient truth

    G.O.P.-Led Senate Panel Details Ties Between 2016 Trump Campaign and Russia

    WASHINGTON — A sprawling report released Tuesday by a Republican-controlled Senate panel that spent three years investigating Russia’s 2016 election interference laid out an extensive web of contacts between Trump campaign advisers and Russian government officials and other Russians, including some with ties to the country’s intelligence services.

    The report by the Senate Intelligence Committee, totaling nearly 1,000 pages, provided a bipartisan Senate imprimatur for an extraordinary set of facts: The Russian government undertook an extensive campaign to try to sabotage the 2016 American election to help Mr. Trump become president, and some members of Mr. Trump’s circle of advisers were open to the help from an American adversary.

    The report drew to a close one of the highest-profile congressional inquiries in recent memory, one that the president and his allies have long tried to discredit as part of a “witch hunt” designed to undermine the legitimacy of Mr. Trump’s stunning election nearly four years ago.
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    Witch hunt, witch hunt.......but true.

    Will not affect the kool-aid drinkers.
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    I would be interested in hearing more about this. Do you mind posting the link to the entire article?
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    Actually, the interview I saw with the chairman of the committee showed him saying after 200+ witnesses under oath and over 1,000,000 pages of documents, like Mueller, they found zero evidence of ANY collusion by Trump or his people with the Russians. Then I was treated to a piece by Schumer saying he was disturbed to find that Trump people actually talked to many Russians. OMG. I was also told by Sen. Mark Warner, ranking member of the committee, that they found that the Russians tried to co-opt members of Trump’s incoming group, but that was it...that’s all he had. Left unsaid, yet screaming for a voice, was the unspoken confession that the Russian were totally unsuccessful in turning anyone!
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    I have looked on most main stream outlets and I don't see a blockbuster story as set out above. I did not read every little story but if the above was out as set out I would think CNN would have it in one inch bold on their site.
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    Here is a search that returns a bunch of sources about the report. I have no idea what they might contain as I have not read any of them.
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    Thanks Mike.

    A brief review reveals this about the report.

    Lawmakers and aides who wrote the report cautioned ahead of time that it would contain NO MEANINGFUL NEW EVIDENCE of coordination between Russia and the Trump campaign but rather would add details to the already vivid web of contacts between the two worlds. Emphasis added
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    The unattributed spin bit of a story Dave posted originated with the New York Times of course, a paper that has literally spent four long years pumping their Russia collusion concoction with over 10,000 pieces someone counted once, but this is all they could come up with so far. Don’t worry, they are not through even while they have moved on to their new 1619 hoax after the egg on their faces from the Mueller failure.

    In the end we have: some Trump people talked to some Russians sometimes...
    Hubba f’in hubba.

    They should have spent the time on the sitting Vice President’s son getting a $1.5B - that’s a b as in billion$ - investment by the Red Chinese after he was trolled through Peking on our jet.
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    Seems everybody everywhere is now getting into the fake news business
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    Between here and Nov 3rd it's all fake news on both sides..... turn off the tv and the inrterwebs and vote your party ... nothing is going to change you!!
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    If your party is the Democrat Party don’t look now, but it has changed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wacojoe View Post
    If your party I’d the Democrat Party don’t look now, but it has changed.
    Yeah it looks like it takes republicans, independents in also. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/democra...cans-speaking/

    While it looks like the republicans are embracing the Q crowds.https://nypost.com/2020/08/19/laura-...a-gop-primary/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillbo View Post
    ... turn off the tv and the inrterwebs and vote your party ... nothing is going to change you!!
    When 'Bo nails something, it's a Deathblow.

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    So you guys want to shut down the forum?
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    Because?

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